Dr. Joel MacClellan, the director of the Environment Program and an assistant professor of philosophy, was recently a guest on the podcast Sentientism. In this episode, Professor MacClellan talks about his latest publications, which focus on the intersection of ethics, animals, and the environment. The podcast delves into thought-provoking questions such as "What's real?", "Who matters?", and "How do we make the world better?" You can watch the episode on YouTube or listen to it on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.